tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10107679.post5039645825115955223..comments2024-03-13T10:40:39.121+00:00Comments on The Reverend Garibaldi McFlurry: Express EvangelismGaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04452898471070875871noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10107679.post-33864968595409385572012-08-25T23:57:59.059+01:002012-08-25T23:57:59.059+01:00I see. So you would consider yourself a Bible lite...I see. So you would consider yourself a Bible literalist then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10107679.post-3113644434812474562012-08-24T09:11:19.884+01:002012-08-24T09:11:19.884+01:00Thanks for your response. I'm not sure I would...Thanks for your response. I'm not sure I would want to drive a wedge between 'historical fact' and 'religious truth' in the way your question seems to imply - that we could have a religious sentiment without any link to history.<br /><br />As I've hinted above, Adam is key to the whole plan of salvation, and without him we have no starting point for the whole enterprise:<br /><br />- The genealogy of Jesus as found in Luke's gospel traces right back to and through Adam.<br /><br />- Jesus regards the early chapters of Genesis as historically true, and quotes or refers to them when declaring that we are made in God's image, affirming marriage, as well as using the days of Noah as a warning of impending disaster.<br /><br />- Adam's place in Paul's theology (as above).<br /><br />For these and other reasons I would suggest that Genesis is a record of what happened, not just a powerful myth. However it's not the most important issue when considering salvation in Christ - the important thing is to call on the name of the Lord Jesus, who died for our sins - and the promise stands that 'everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved' (Acts 2:21). <br /><br />Genesis and Adam isn't the make or break issue - it doesn't say that everyone who believes in Genesis literally will be saved - the issue is our sin and rebellion against God. Get that sorted first, and then we can deal with all those other issues...Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04452898471070875871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10107679.post-32022411109488416432012-08-23T21:26:00.893+01:002012-08-23T21:26:00.893+01:00Yes I think that I will. The question is 'driv...Yes I think that I will. The question is 'driving at' an answer. Nothing more. The 'motive' is nothing more than the fact that this is the internet and we can all get involved. I am interested, this is the internet and I wish to be involved in your public thinking.<br /><br />A re-phrasal: Does one have to accept the Genesis version of Adam as historical fact (as opposed to religious truth) in order to receive salvation in Christ?<br /><br />Your assertion that we are all descended from Adam would imply such. This would require that we accept an anthropological history of no more than +/- 6,000 years. It is this point that interests me the most.<br /><br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10107679.post-1958612530493658242012-08-23T18:12:51.949+01:002012-08-23T18:12:51.949+01:00Thanks for your comment and question, Anonymous. I...Thanks for your comment and question, Anonymous. I'm not sure just what your question is driving towards, or the motive behind it, but as an initial response it's helpful to remember the importance of Adam in Paul's theology.<br /><br />Just as we are all 'in Adam' with him being our representative head, so we need to be 'in Christ' as our saving representative head. The direct comparison/correlation as declared in 1 Corinthians 15 and Romans 5 can only work if Adam is the first man, created by God, from whom we are all descended.<br /><br />Perhaps you'd like to respond and elaborate on your question?Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04452898471070875871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10107679.post-19196670405487691132012-08-22T19:49:57.520+01:002012-08-22T19:49:57.520+01:00Talking of Genesis 1-11 and the reception of the G...Talking of Genesis 1-11 and the reception of the Gospel in the Pauline missions, how far is a literal reception of the Genesis account of creation important for salvation apropos the Gospel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com